Multiboxing support for Fiesta online ?

[lewisg743]

Hi there, i would like to make a suggestion to either create, or adapt the MMORPG Fiesta into a multiboxing program. I have recently gotten back into the game after getting sick of wow, again (patch 5.4). Now the game does have a lot of potential and will soon be brought back up to it's former fame. (I am actually helping them do this, my friend is one of the head GM's) I have tried things such as pwnboxer and and ISboxer but they really aren't equipped for the job (I know how to set them up from former experiences). Myself am only a novice coder, since i really don't need to code as i'm more of a tech support guy but if someone is rather good with coding who could help me create a simple multiboxing program and then develop it further that would be great. There is a large potential for money if i do create a program that gets very popular, but keeping it free would be better in my opinion. SO if you are someone who would to be involved with the project and/or want more information with regards to the program, e-mail at {email removed} or reply to this thread.

Thanks, Lewis.

[MiRai]

It's highly unlikely that you're going to find a program that works with X-Trap, and I can tell you now that this forum isn't here to help you disable X-Trap in order to do so.

I don't think it matters either way since their TOS states that you're only allowed to play one account anyway:

1.9. You may only participate in the online games operated by gamigo using a single account. Multiple avatars are not permitted. Please see the Rules of Conduct for the applicable online game for further information.

I'd also suggest that you brush up on this forum's community rules before posting again.

[lewisg743]

Gamigo bought over the game and no longer use x-trap, they also have no way of tracking on whether or not someone is connecting from the same ip.

[MiRai]

And what about the TOS that I linked to? It sounds pretty cut-and-dry.

[EaTCarbS]

And what about the TOS that I linked to? It sounds pretty cut-and-dry.

TOS statements like the one above often aren't applied in the ways we think they are, and often just serve as a catch-all for things like botting or whatever else they whimsically decide. Several games have statements in their TOS that could easily be interpreted to make boxing a no go, but the game itself allows boxing. If the op is hell bent on multiboxing this game, just tread carefully.

[MiRai]

TOS statements like the one above often aren't applied in the ways we think they are, and often just serve as a catch-all for things like botting or whatever else they whimsically decide. Several games have statements in their TOS that could easily be interpreted to make boxing a no go, but the game itself allows boxing. If the op is hell bent on multiboxing this game, just tread carefully.

I guess, but I can't find the FO Rules of Conduct as per this line:

"Please see the Rules of Conduct for the applicable online game for further information."

Either way, if ISBoxer or HKN don't suit his needs, I doubt anyone is willing to build an application from the ground up just for Fiesta Online. /shrug

[Khatovar]

TOS statements like the one above often aren't applied in the ways we think they are, and often just serve as a catch-all for things like botting or whatever else they whimsically decide. Several games have statements in their TOS that could easily be interpreted to make boxing a no go, but the game itself allows boxing. If the op is hell bent on multiboxing this game, just tread carefully.

The catch-alls look more like "8.3. You are not permitted to use software: (a) that places an excessive load on the servers operated by gamigo, (b) that systematically or automatically execute commands or functions inside the online games (for example, bots or macros), or (c) that may be used to reproduce or analyze the online game or to reproduce or analyze elements or content of the online games (apart from the content owned by you). - link" Rules like this don't specifically ban programs that are designed not to "read the client" or automate, though they can apply this rule at their discretion to anything that violates the the nebulous "spirit" of the game/rule.

Most of those games don't outright say "You can only use a single account. Multiple Avatars are not permitted." or "Owning more than one Fiesta Online account is forbidden by the Terms of Service and is punishable by a permanent ban of all accounts. - link " I don't think it gets any more spelled out than that. It doesn't say anything about not being able to use more than one account in this way or that way. It just says no, period.

Gamigo bought over the game and no longer use x-trap, they also have no way of tracking on whether or not someone is connecting from the same ip.

This isn't a site for how not to get caught doing whatever you want, damn the rules. Ellay built this site and community up on being ToS/EULA compliant, which is what distinguishes it from bot/hack/exploit sites and that's the standard I'm going with unless Lax comes in and says differently.

[ebony]

The catch-alls look more like "8.3. You are not permitted to use software: (a) that places an excessive load on the servers operated by gamigo, (b) that systematically or automatically execute commands or functions inside the online games (for example, bots or macros), or (c) that may be used to reproduce or analyze the online game or to reproduce or analyze elements or content of the online games (apart from the content owned by you). - link" Rules like this don't specifically ban programs that are designed not to "read the client" or automate, though they can apply this rule at their discretion to anything that violates the the nebulous "spirit" of the game/rule.

Most of those games don't outright say "You can only use a single account. Multiple Avatars are not permitted." or "Owning more than one Fiesta Online account is forbidden by the Terms of Service and is punishable by a permanent ban of all accounts. - link " I don't think it gets any more spelled out than that. It doesn't say anything about not being able to use more than one account in this way or that way. It just says no, period.



This isn't a site for how not to get caught doing whatever you want, damn the rules. Ellay built this site and community up on being ToS/EULA compliant, which is what distinguishes it from bot/hack/exploit sites and that's the standard I'm going with unless Lax comes in and says differently.

Moderatrix has spoken.


but ya "Multiple Avatars are not permitted" then its kinda of a no you can not play anymore then one char at the same time. Games like wow does not support us (eg@ removing follow from bg's for some other reason but not leaving it in just for us.) but we can play Multiple Avatars and even kinda support owning more then one account.

[lewisg743]

Even though the way in which most people multibox is against most games TOS as in 1 button to do 3 things is against TOS, so don't go bitching to me about TOS as no one gives any fucks. Now if you want to help out with this project then say so, if you want to bitch about rules, well then you are on the wrong forum.

[MiRai]

When someone shows up on a forum and their first post is about how they write bot scripts and they need someone to build them a program because there's lots of money to be made, well... that just doesn't sit well with a lot of the members of this forum.

So, if you all you have left in you is to spew insults, then I hope you enjoyed your short stay here.