"Only one faction per realm on PvP realms" and other just announced limits

[Moorea]

I don't remember or I forgot there was such limit
"Only one faction per realm on PvP realms"
I was planning on 5 boxing teams on the same realm both alliance and horde but now not sure what to do (probably not double my subscriptions which would be how to achieve it)

They are also limiting to 10 character per realm and 50 total (per wow account I assume and not battlenet)

Source https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/how-many-characters-can-we-create-in-classic/163599/23

[MiRai]

I expected nothing different, especially since Blizzard has stated that they're looking at ways to mitigate cross-faction communication for Classic, most likely beyond what was already in place at that time.

[Assami]

You can play your horde team on a different realms.
It won't change anything since it's not the same faction so play your alliance teams on one and your horde teams on another one

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I'd like "What is win-trading for $500, Alex." Surely, this isn't a surprise?

[edit] It'll be bad enough as is with people doing that for gold. The Tanaris auction house will still be there if I remember correctly, though that might have come in much later than vanilla.

[Moorea]

The reason for having both on the same realm is to transfer money and/or items through the neutral AH

Also handy if someone ninja loots you and you can come and camp them from the other faction, etc... :)

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Exactly.

[Jabberie]

I don't remember or I forgot there was such limit
"Only one faction per realm on PvP realms"
I was planning on 5 boxing teams on the same realm both alliance and horde but now not sure what to do (probably not double my subscriptions which would be how to achieve it)

They are also limiting to 10 character per realm and 50 total (per wow account I assume and not battlenet)

Source https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/how-many-characters-can-we-create-in-classic/163599/23

Classic servers having server rules from vanilla, was this not what was wanted?

[Moorea]

my point is I don’t remember that rule, I’m pretty sure that at least in BC I had both factions or am I misremembering

also curious what other plan to do with that rule

[MiRai]

my point is I don’t remember that rule
It was definitely a restriction, along with not being able to transfer from PvE to PvP servers because players were to endure the difficulty of leveling on a PvP server to temper their character.


I’m pretty sure that at least in BC I had both factions or am I misremembering
You are mis-remembering, as the server-faction restriction wasn't lifted until patch 3.2.0 in Wrath (https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_3.2.0_(undocumented_changes)).


also curious what other plan to do with that rule
Other than plan to abide by it? :)

[Moorea]

Other than plan to abide by it? :)

Multiple options:

- Playing teams on PVE servers
- Picking 1 realm for Ally 1 realm for Horde
- Focusing on only 1 faction
- 10 boxing and splitting 5 and 5
- ...Anything else?...

I might go overboard and back to 8 boxing with a 5 team and a 3 team... dunno

[MiRai]

Multiple options:

- Playing teams on PVE servers
- Picking 1 realm for Ally 1 realm for Horde
- Focusing on only 1 faction
- 10 boxing and splitting 5 and 5
- ...Anything else?...
I'll be multiboxing on a PvE server, but not because of the same-faction restriction on PvP servers, as I'm expecting that I'll only be playing Alliance.


I might go overboard and back to 8 boxing with a 5 team and a 3 team... dunno
Why are you looking to play both factions on the same server? Just because of the sense of knowing/understanding the server community better? If that's the case, it might be time for a second BNet account with a separate 5-man team.

[Moorea]

Why are you looking to play both factions on the same server? Just because of the sense of knowing/understanding the server community better? If that's the case, it might be time for a second BNet account with a separate 5-man team.

it's to live both sides of the experience (including having paladins and shamans and not missing out on either), as well as, if I can swing it on same server, be able to have my highest/richest team help the other one

[MiRai]

if I can swing it on same server, be able to have my highest/richest team help the other one
How do you plan to do that? Exchange goods on the neutral auction house?

[Moorea]

yes, neutral ah despite higher fee

[Fat Tire]

I remember sniping 1 copper auction listing with a low levels. I ran them down there to tanaris and booty bay (died a few times), but I was able to snipe a ton of good stuff.

I was doing this well before addons were a thing. I cant imagine doing it now with all the item alert addons.

[Apatheist]

Auction houses aren't centralized in vanilla. You can only view items listed at the particular auction house you're at so you can just kill anybody standing near the auctioneer before you list your goods if you're worried.

Just be prepared to get swarmed by goblins.

I hadn't even considered playing on a PvE server. Seems like it would take half of the fun out of the vanilla experience. Though if /follow is disabled in world PvP I suppose it's not much fun for us either way.

[MiRai]

Auction houses aren't centralized in vanilla. You can only view items listed at the particular auction house you're at so you can just kill anybody standing near the auctioneer before you list your goods if you're worried.
Same-Faction auction houses, as well as trade chat, were merged in patch 1.9 (https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_1.9.0).


Players will now be able to buy and sell goods with greater effectiveness using the Linked Auction House system. Auction Houses in Orgrimmar, Undercity, and Thunder Bluff will now share the same pool of Horde player-created auctions, and Alliance players will find the same to be true when visiting Ironforge, Stormwind City, and Darnassus Auction Houses. This system has been expanded to support the neutral Auction Houses as well. Tanaris, Everlook, and Booty Bay will all be linked for players of both factions to access. In addition, the "Looking for Group" and "Trade" channels have been unified among the corresponding cities, meaning, for example, that you can trade your goods or look for groups in Ironforge while in Stormwind.

[Moorea]

Auction houses aren't centralized in vanilla. You can only view items listed at the particular auction house you're at so you can just kill anybody standing near the auctioneer before you list your goods if you're worried.

Just be prepared to get swarmed by goblins.

I hadn't even considered playing on a PvE server. Seems like it would take half of the fun out of the vanilla experience. Though if /follow is disabled in world PvP I suppose it's not much fun for us either way.

You would need tanaris, booty bay and winterspring simultaneous clear - I do observe each though each time I do a transfer, also don't send a 20g thing for 1c, make it 3s23c bid and 5s41c buyout or some such (at least above vendor), reduces chances of sniping


I can deal defensively with follow breaking in wpvp in bfa, should be fine for vanilla too. And offensively, just need to chain stuns and slow and kill them fast.

[Apatheist]

Same-Faction auction houses, as well as trade chat, were merged in patch 1.9 (https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_1.9.0).

There are only 3 neutral AH's though and they're all pretty easy to get to with engineering. Once you're established on a server and have a few alts it doesn't take long to clear out all the bots so you can trade your stuff.

[Fat Tire]

There are only 3 neutral AH's though and they're all pretty easy to get to with engineering. Once you're established on a server and have a few alts it doesn't take long to clear out all the bots so you can trade your stuff.

I would imagine it only being harder in classic. There are less servers, so that means it will be more populated.

I never stood by the auctioneer waiting to be slaughtered. In booty bay up on the beams and in tanaris outside of the hut there are places to stand and watch. My low levels were rogue who sat in stealth, I had two accounts and had one in booty bay and one in tanaris.

I remember alliance having an item that sold for $ on alliance, but on horde it sold for $$$$, so people would buy on alliance to resell on horde transferring using the neutral AH. They would even advertise on the warcraft server forums.

I picked a number of those items up(for the life of me I cant remember what the item was though)

There was never very much for sale on those AH's. The good stuff was easy to spot even if people varied the price, I just sorted by price. I could spot the good stuff right away. Sniping the items took seconds with out a program, I may not get them all but I would get a number of them. An addon called auctioneer or something like that came out much later I remember. There are many addons now.

I would get killed every once in a while, but remember I had two characters and I didnt pop out of stealth until I clicked on the auctioneer. I also remember vanishing and the guards attacking them which I would imagine was completely frustrating.

You could do a /who to see if high lvls were in those spots. Granted I didnt snipe everything but I got enough stuff to make it worth while when I felt like it.

[Apatheist]

I would imagine it only being harder in classic.

I kept a max level alt at all of the neutral AH's from classic all the way through Wrath. With the right addons and macros you can just mash buttons to list, search and buy with your alt pretty much instantly. You can generally tell when there are bots scanning the AH since 90% of the time they're low level characters with weird names. Even if you do lose an item here and there it's trivial compared to the amount of gold you can make overall.

Faction specific rewards sell pretty high. In particular I remember deleting thousands of gold on my horde alt because I didn't notice for ages that it was gold capped from selling alliance argent tournament pets in Wrath.

[Brandish]

I don't remember or I forgot there was such limit
"Only one faction per realm on PvP realms"


This is how it was back then. This is why I have a 6th account, to send love notes to the other faction.

Also fairly certain the PvE servers were also restricted back in the day, might not have been, I was mostly on a PvP realm.

[Wizeowel]

Also fairly certain the PvE servers were also restricted back in the day, might not have been, I was mostly on a PvP realm.

I played alliance on a PvE server but had a troll warrior twink because low level horde were so much more organised in WSG. This was before battlegroups so pre 1.12.

[Tin]

PvE servers were not restricted - but you could not sell and them buy on the neutral auction house - on same account.